So I ended my last post with concerns that collecting gear for my bear spec was going to be a scary proposition while trying to scrimp and save DKP and Emblems for my main cat spec. After further review I don’t think that is going to be the case. Lets go slot by slot and see how each item ties into our miser cat guide. Keep in mind that I am going for gear that will allow me to OT or even MT 25 man raiding content. For 5 man Heroics I could easily tank it in my current kitty gear if need be.
- WEAPON! – Same as kitty your largest single upgrade will be a new weapon and you will use it for both DPS and Tanking to boot. Gem for agility and chant Mongoose for dual purpose.
- Shoulders – We are going to use the Duskstalker Shoulderpads here and double duty these bad boys giving us more bang for the buck. Although we can’t enchant them for strict tanking duty the DPS shoulder chant will just give us more threat. Gem with agility not Armor Pen since we are going to use them for both specs.
- Back – Pride of the Eredar / Pride of the Demon Lord from 25 man Heroic Jaraxxus is what we want… or the version from Normal mode… whichever, but both are big upgrades coming from Ulduar. I am not going to mention the cloaks for the tribute run which is essentially the new raids version of a hard mode imho nor point out the intermediate cloak upgrade from 10 man Heroic Icehowl… save up and get the Pride.
- Chest – Another dual use item here Cuirass of Calamitous Fate / Vest of Calamitous Fate from either normal or Heroic 25 man Jaraxxus. Chant is unchanged at +10 to stats and gem agility for DPS and tanking. This item was also on our Cat DPS list and is a good place to not have T8/T9 gear. Keep in mind I am still going with the premise that the 2T9 bonus is not a huge deal. I have not done a ton of research on this yet as far as the math goes with rake lasting 3 more seconds but I can’t imagine that bonus doing more than breaking even on the kitty side short of getting the Heroic T9 in 2 slots which from a DKP standpoint is most likely going to be pretty expensive. I am sticking with the opinion that 2T8 and no T9 for kitty DPS is the best way to maximize Emblems and DKP if you don’t play much.
- Waist – If you don’t have it already spend some time in WinterGrasp and pick up Titan-Forged Belt of Triumph unless you already have Relic Hunter’s Cord in your kitty set of which you could dual purpose. At only 15 marks it is quite a good deal. Belt of the Merciless Killer from either normal or Heroic 25 man Twin Valkyrs is a sizable upgrade but again don’t spend DKP on a belt if it puts getting something like a weapon in jeopardy.
- Legs – Leggings of the Broken Beast / Legwraps of the Broken Beast come from 25 man normal and Heroic Northrend Beasts (Icehowl). The likely hood is you will be doing this boss many… many…many times so you should be able to snag these for a small opening bid. Picking them up in either mode is the way to go and we don’t want to dual purpose legs for Cat and Bear because we want to use different enchants on each.
- Trinkets – Unless you have some of the uber sweet trinkets from Ulduar you should run the new 5 man instance and grab the The Black Heart. Replace you Darkmoon card with Death’s Verdict and don’t worry about spending some DKP here since you will be using the trinket for both Cat and Bear.
- Idol – If you have not had Idol of the Corruptor drop in Ulduar go ahead and pick it up on the cheap for 19 Emblems of Conquest. Do not be fooled into picking up Idol of Mutilation for tanking. Agility>Dodge you can read the details HERE
So our Total Emblems cost for bear gear…
So a total of 150 Emblems of Triumph and 19 Emblems of Conquest. Add what we need for kitty gear and the Grand Total is a mind blowing 255 Emblems of Triumph.
Make sure to buy your helm first (after getting all your kitty gear of course if that is your main spec) and then the rest of the items later just in case you get lucky with drops and DKP spending.
At 255 Emblems that will take 100ish days of daily Heroics coupled with raiding Emblem drops… that is just a guess, I don’t do much theory math… it will probably end up being a little less than 100 days.
Consider buying the belts for both cat and bear too – with runed orbs taking emblems of conquest, they’re fairly cheap and easy to make, and can last quite a long time. Same with footpads of silence – they can easily pull double duty for cat and bear and with the gem slots do a great job for both.
Also, 2pT9 is very, very good, and until rake gets dropped from the rotation it’s pretty close to the 2pT8 bonus.
Really?
3 more seconds of rake up time is a big as free energy procs?
That is a very good point on the Ulduar crafted items and a good place to use extra Conquest badges if you have them.
Personally I will prob be using some of my extra badges on Epic gems but maybe eventually.
3 more seconds of rake time is essentially an extra shred. In 36 seconds, that means that instead of 4 rakes (optimally) you’ll do 3, and that means one extra shred in that time. One extra shred every 36 seconds compares very favorably to the clearcasting proc on 2pT8 – in general, I get around 12-13 procs in a 4 minute fight, and this gives essentially 8 in a 4-minute fight.
They also work together well; one gives higher uptime, the other gives procs based on uptime.
I still wouldn’t get the 232-level stuff that costs only Triumph badges unless you seriously need upgrades. But it’s certainly reasonable to prioritize the cheaper T9 gear (shoulders and gloves).
We are talking about a loss in stats though going with the cheaper T9 over the Emblem shoulders.
Less AP
Haste instead of Crit
Less agility
Less ArP
Are we sure the bonus is worth a loss in stats in 2 slots? I am asking because If the difference in DPS increase is minor I would rather wait on the good stuff and use my Emblems elsewhere.
I’m not saying it is worth going for the cheaper stuff – point of fact, I said it wasn’t. Here’s what I was responding to:
keep in mind I am still going with the premise that the 2T9 bonus is not a huge deal.
Was just telling you that it is, in fact, something of a big deal.
And it’s also not unreasonable to go for the T9.245 shoulders and gloves. Especially the gloves given that there’s not really any other slot replacement. That would only cost you 90 emblems.
But that is the cheaper stuff no?
Actually, there was a post on EJ… apparently someone has figured out the numbers and the new BiS will be 2T9 and the rest is BiS non tier gear.
Not sure how accurate this info is but if it is true it does show how big the 2T9 bonus is as well as just how good the stats are on Heroic 25 man BiS to forgo the 2T8 bonus.
I appreciate all the input Kai, I am definitely going to be pretty frustrated transitioning from Ulduar gear to Crusader Gear.
That’s the cheaper stuff, but it’s not the ilvl 232 stuff. It’ll still cost you a trophy of the crusader. But they’re one of the better bargains you can get. I’ll try and get into it more on my blog.
Of course, a lot of this may not make any sense if the heroic stuff is fairly easy to get; I’m assuming it’s not.