Comments on: The Miser Bear in 3.2

By: Kal

Kal — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:54:39 +0000

That’s the cheaper stuff, but it’s not the ilvl 232 stuff. It’ll still cost you a trophy of the crusader. But they’re one of the better bargains you can get. I’ll try and get into it more on my blog.

Of course, a lot of this may not make any sense if the heroic stuff is fairly easy to get; I’m assuming it’s not.

By: Jacemora

Jacemora — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:11:07 +0000

But that is the cheaper stuff no?

Actually, there was a post on EJ… apparently someone has figured out the numbers and the new BiS will be 2T9 and the rest is BiS non tier gear.

Not sure how accurate this info is but if it is true it does show how big the 2T9 bonus is as well as just how good the stats are on Heroic 25 man BiS to forgo the 2T8 bonus.

I appreciate all the input Kai, I am definitely going to be pretty frustrated transitioning from Ulduar gear to Crusader Gear.

By: Kal

Kal — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:56:36 +0000

I’m not saying it is worth going for the cheaper stuff – point of fact, I said it wasn’t. Here’s what I was responding to:

keep in mind I am still going with the premise that the 2T9 bonus is not a huge deal.

Was just telling you that it is, in fact, something of a big deal.

And it’s also not unreasonable to go for the T9.245 shoulders and gloves. Especially the gloves given that there’s not really any other slot replacement. That would only cost you 90 emblems.

By: Jacemora

Jacemora — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:32:11 +0000

We are talking about a loss in stats though going with the cheaper T9 over the Emblem shoulders.

Less AP
Haste instead of Crit
Less agility
Less ArP

Are we sure the bonus is worth a loss in stats in 2 slots? I am asking because If the difference in DPS increase is minor I would rather wait on the good stuff and use my Emblems elsewhere.

By: Kal

Kal — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:05:49 +0000

3 more seconds of rake time is essentially an extra shred. In 36 seconds, that means that instead of 4 rakes (optimally) you’ll do 3, and that means one extra shred in that time. One extra shred every 36 seconds compares very favorably to the clearcasting proc on 2pT8 – in general, I get around 12-13 procs in a 4 minute fight, and this gives essentially 8 in a 4-minute fight.

They also work together well; one gives higher uptime, the other gives procs based on uptime.

I still wouldn’t get the 232-level stuff that costs only Triumph badges unless you seriously need upgrades. But it’s certainly reasonable to prioritize the cheaper T9 gear (shoulders and gloves).

By: Jacemora

Jacemora — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:01:42 +0000

Really?

3 more seconds of rake up time is a big as free energy procs?

That is a very good point on the Ulduar crafted items and a good place to use extra Conquest badges if you have them.

Personally I will prob be using some of my extra badges on Epic gems but maybe eventually.

By: Kal

Kal — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:24:10 +0000

Consider buying the belts for both cat and bear too – with runed orbs taking emblems of conquest, they’re fairly cheap and easy to make, and can last quite a long time. Same with footpads of silence – they can easily pull double duty for cat and bear and with the gem slots do a great job for both.

Also, 2pT9 is very, very good, and until rake gets dropped from the rotation it’s pretty close to the 2pT8 bonus.