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		<title>By: Jheusse</title>
		<link>http://jacemora.com/raiding-as-feral/a-short-kitty-guide-to-mimiron/comment-page-1/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>Jheusse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gotten into the habit of looking for castbars because they have less tendency to get lost in the graphical soup (how many cats can even see their toon in all that?) and depending on the fight my graphics may be turned up or down.  Just a matter of mentally re-training myself.  Similarly, we do Thorim right after Hodir and I find myself doing that constant small movement thing on Thorim because I&#039;m still in that mindset.

I&#039;ve never been outside the mines in phase 4 at barrage time.  For the most part the 2 seconds or so of &quot;Spinning up&quot; for barrage is plenty of time for me to run through the boss.  Even when running out for a Shock Blast, if the barrage interrupts it I&#039;ve had time to get behind him, I&#039;ve never ever had to do the hollywood &quot;run ahead of the gunfire&quot; thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotten into the habit of looking for castbars because they have less tendency to get lost in the graphical soup (how many cats can even see their toon in all that?) and depending on the fight my graphics may be turned up or down.  Just a matter of mentally re-training myself.  Similarly, we do Thorim right after Hodir and I find myself doing that constant small movement thing on Thorim because I&#8217;m still in that mindset.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been outside the mines in phase 4 at barrage time.  For the most part the 2 seconds or so of &#8220;Spinning up&#8221; for barrage is plenty of time for me to run through the boss.  Even when running out for a Shock Blast, if the barrage interrupts it I&#8217;ve had time to get behind him, I&#8217;ve never ever had to do the hollywood &#8220;run ahead of the gunfire&#8221; thing</p>
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		<title>By: Jacemora</title>
		<link>http://jacemora.com/raiding-as-feral/a-short-kitty-guide-to-mimiron/comment-page-1/#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacemora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jheusse

No worries about commenting on old posts, you would be surprised how many readers will find and old post useful or for the first time through Google searches at a much later date.

Looking for the visual cue IMHO is easier than watching the cast bar even in phase 1.

In phase 4 my biggest trouble when getting hit by mines is when running away and circling back behind during a laser barrage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jheusse</p>
<p>No worries about commenting on old posts, you would be surprised how many readers will find and old post useful or for the first time through Google searches at a much later date.</p>
<p>Looking for the visual cue IMHO is easier than watching the cast bar even in phase 1.</p>
<p>In phase 4 my biggest trouble when getting hit by mines is when running away and circling back behind during a laser barrage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jheusse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jheusse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to bump an old thread, but an update:

Noted above I have trouble in Phase 4 avoiding getting hit by the blast, for example when I&#039;m dpsing the body rather than the base, since the castbar is not visible (unless I focus the base for that reason, but my screen gets a bit too busy then).  And when I do go to run out, the body of the robot obscures the view of the mines, so I have to pre-position even better than in phase 1.  Using strafe to run out may help avoid robot blocking too.

Just updating because on our last kill I specifically looked for the sparks around the robot as my visual cue to get out rather than watching for the cast bar, which is typically what I&#039;m conditioned to look for.  Took some mental shaking of the scruff of my neck to train myself to look for the cues differently, but was much more successful in Phase 4 survival for that little tweak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to bump an old thread, but an update:</p>
<p>Noted above I have trouble in Phase 4 avoiding getting hit by the blast, for example when I&#8217;m dpsing the body rather than the base, since the castbar is not visible (unless I focus the base for that reason, but my screen gets a bit too busy then).  And when I do go to run out, the body of the robot obscures the view of the mines, so I have to pre-position even better than in phase 1.  Using strafe to run out may help avoid robot blocking too.</p>
<p>Just updating because on our last kill I specifically looked for the sparks around the robot as my visual cue to get out rather than watching for the cast bar, which is typically what I&#8217;m conditioned to look for.  Took some mental shaking of the scruff of my neck to train myself to look for the cues differently, but was much more successful in Phase 4 survival for that little tweak.</p>
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		<title>By: Vallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@COLDBEAR/Neirin

I would have to agree that burning Berserk in p1 is not an ideal choice. It should be impossible for your Berserk to be up again for p2 if you burned it in p1 (hence why you burn it in p2 and p4). If you burn your Berserk in p1, and it&#039;s up again in p2 it must mean your dps is really slow (how many plasma blasts are you eating?). Generally we have 2 blasts before we enter p2.

@dealing with bomb bots

We use a boomkin to root the bomb bots as they drop so they are stationary. Then we have a hunter keep his pet right in the same spot to engage the bomb bot to force an explosion. This eliminates any chance of the bomb getting loose and forces the explosion while nobody is near the head. A clean and simple way of killing bombs with 0% chance of anyone dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@COLDBEAR/Neirin</p>
<p>I would have to agree that burning Berserk in p1 is not an ideal choice. It should be impossible for your Berserk to be up again for p2 if you burned it in p1 (hence why you burn it in p2 and p4). If you burn your Berserk in p1, and it&#8217;s up again in p2 it must mean your dps is really slow (how many plasma blasts are you eating?). Generally we have 2 blasts before we enter p2.</p>
<p>@dealing with bomb bots</p>
<p>We use a boomkin to root the bomb bots as they drop so they are stationary. Then we have a hunter keep his pet right in the same spot to engage the bomb bot to force an explosion. This eliminates any chance of the bomb getting loose and forces the explosion while nobody is near the head. A clean and simple way of killing bombs with 0% chance of anyone dying.</p>
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		<title>By: faber</title>
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		<dc:creator>faber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had warriors being almost killed by bombs. In phase 3 till I asked to try a little test. To see if I could survive a bomb blast in cat gear/spec. I shifted to bear, equipped my cat gear and ff one of the patting bombs while everyone stayed back. They do about the same damage as Mim&#039;s bomb bots. Might try it if your raid is low on range dps, could be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had warriors being almost killed by bombs. In phase 3 till I asked to try a little test. To see if I could survive a bomb blast in cat gear/spec. I shifted to bear, equipped my cat gear and ff one of the patting bombs while everyone stayed back. They do about the same damage as Mim&#8217;s bomb bots. Might try it if your raid is low on range dps, could be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacemora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacemora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jheusse

No, thank you for writing as much as you did.

I feel your pain in phase 4... literally.

I was burning berserk way too early in phase 2, I am going to hold it for lasers next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jheusse</p>
<p>No, thank you for writing as much as you did.</p>
<p>I feel your pain in phase 4&#8230; literally.</p>
<p>I was burning berserk way too early in phase 2, I am going to hold it for lasers next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jheusse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jheusse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t tried Phase 1 Berserk, might be interesting, though I&#039;m more of a mind to save it for the perfect time in Phase 2, which is while he&#039;s spinning up and barraging.  Phase 1 isn&#039;t really a dps race, Phase 2 is because of the raid damage best burned through.  And your odds of losing a third of the berserk time to run out for the shock makes it iffy for me.

Phase 2 the laser barrage is the best time to burn Berserk as noted above.  The only time the SOB stands still during the whole phase, can&#039;t count how many times I&#039;ve had him turn to face me just as I hit shred, then I mangle him on my way running through him.

The crew I run with has a bear standing directly under Mim&#039;s head in phase 3 snacking on bomb bots, generally not far outside the inner ring on the floor but not on the floor stripe that leads to the entry doorway (where some of the assault bots spawn).  Bulk of raid near the doorway burning down assault bots as they spawn, designated looter takes the core and drops it right in front of the bear.  Have to pay attention to timing slightly so bomb bot doesn&#039;t hit the incoming melee, but not difficult.  Coordinating your location of your bomb soaker and range tank away from healers is very do-able.

I&#039;ve never had a problem getting a 5 point rip up on the head so long as I don&#039;t have to refresh Savage Roar while I&#039;m doing it.  Since the majority of our dps burns the assault bots I never try to use combo points for Rip on them, they die too fast.  Even the ranged dps switches to the assaults, we&#039;ve found it more efficient not falling behind on bots and not over-aggroing the range tank.  Assault bots for me are strictly to make sure that I have a long Roar up when the head comes down.  With typical crit rates an Ulduar cat has, getting a rake, mangle and 5 point rip up is pretty easy, though I sometimes spam mangle rather than shred because of the head spinning.  Combo points and the rip is the goal.

My main difficulty in the Mim fight is surviving Phase 4, either getting caught in blast or occasionally the body of the robot blocks my view of the mine I just ran over.  Putting the base as a focus target helps me see the casting bar if I&#039;m dpsing the body, but it&#039;s still a lot going on and the lines of sight get squirrelly with all the movement.

Sorry for writing a book, not a good sign when the comment is longer than the initial post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t tried Phase 1 Berserk, might be interesting, though I&#8217;m more of a mind to save it for the perfect time in Phase 2, which is while he&#8217;s spinning up and barraging.  Phase 1 isn&#8217;t really a dps race, Phase 2 is because of the raid damage best burned through.  And your odds of losing a third of the berserk time to run out for the shock makes it iffy for me.</p>
<p>Phase 2 the laser barrage is the best time to burn Berserk as noted above.  The only time the SOB stands still during the whole phase, can&#8217;t count how many times I&#8217;ve had him turn to face me just as I hit shred, then I mangle him on my way running through him.</p>
<p>The crew I run with has a bear standing directly under Mim&#8217;s head in phase 3 snacking on bomb bots, generally not far outside the inner ring on the floor but not on the floor stripe that leads to the entry doorway (where some of the assault bots spawn).  Bulk of raid near the doorway burning down assault bots as they spawn, designated looter takes the core and drops it right in front of the bear.  Have to pay attention to timing slightly so bomb bot doesn&#8217;t hit the incoming melee, but not difficult.  Coordinating your location of your bomb soaker and range tank away from healers is very do-able.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had a problem getting a 5 point rip up on the head so long as I don&#8217;t have to refresh Savage Roar while I&#8217;m doing it.  Since the majority of our dps burns the assault bots I never try to use combo points for Rip on them, they die too fast.  Even the ranged dps switches to the assaults, we&#8217;ve found it more efficient not falling behind on bots and not over-aggroing the range tank.  Assault bots for me are strictly to make sure that I have a long Roar up when the head comes down.  With typical crit rates an Ulduar cat has, getting a rake, mangle and 5 point rip up is pretty easy, though I sometimes spam mangle rather than shred because of the head spinning.  Combo points and the rip is the goal.</p>
<p>My main difficulty in the Mim fight is surviving Phase 4, either getting caught in blast or occasionally the body of the robot blocks my view of the mine I just ran over.  Putting the base as a focus target helps me see the casting bar if I&#8217;m dpsing the body, but it&#8217;s still a lot going on and the lines of sight get squirrelly with all the movement.</p>
<p>Sorry for writing a book, not a good sign when the comment is longer than the initial post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacemora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacemora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Coldbear

Awesome suggestion! I am going to edit my original post. I have not done it yet with a tank though that could hold agro if I used it that soon but I sure others might be able to.

@Neirin

Another great suggestion for using tranquility.

@faber

We personally had people getting real hurt by bombs even sometimes 1 shot because they were not at full health. I found kiting them away from the range tank and healers was just safer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Coldbear</p>
<p>Awesome suggestion! I am going to edit my original post. I have not done it yet with a tank though that could hold agro if I used it that soon but I sure others might be able to.</p>
<p>@Neirin</p>
<p>Another great suggestion for using tranquility.</p>
<p>@faber</p>
<p>We personally had people getting real hurt by bombs even sometimes 1 shot because they were not at full health. I found kiting them away from the range tank and healers was just safer.</p>
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		<title>By: faber</title>
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		<dc:creator>faber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why kite the bomb bots? I stand under the floating head and soak the damage even in dps spec/gear they hardly hurt and it gives the people with the disks a target so they know where to place to bring it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why kite the bomb bots? I stand under the floating head and soak the damage even in dps spec/gear they hardly hurt and it gives the people with the disks a target so they know where to place to bring it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Neirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your raid dps is a little slow, burning berserk early in p1 is ok as it will be back up for p2, but in general having to worry about shock blast and positioning for mines makes p1 a poor choice for blowing berserk.

In addition to brez and innervate, I also find that popping tranquility between p2 and p3 can be helpful to healers so they can use the full time to regen mana. Since we&#039;re not gonna be using our mana for anything else we might as well help a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your raid dps is a little slow, burning berserk early in p1 is ok as it will be back up for p2, but in general having to worry about shock blast and positioning for mines makes p1 a poor choice for blowing berserk.</p>
<p>In addition to brez and innervate, I also find that popping tranquility between p2 and p3 can be helpful to healers so they can use the full time to regen mana. Since we&#8217;re not gonna be using our mana for anything else we might as well help a bit.</p>
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